And measles outbreaks occur even in populations where 90+% of the population is vaccinated — indicating that it’s not that effective a vax. Herd immunity takes place when you let a disease go through the population. A few suffer badly, a few die, but the rest are now immune after getting through the disease. We are trying to improve upon that, but we are doing a shitty and not scientifically sound job of that. You cannot recreate herd immunity through vaccination. It either works or it doesn’t. If I need to be vaccinated in order for you not to get sick, that’s not real science. The vax isn’t effective.

Consider that in an outbreak in the United States from 1989 to 1991, amid 55,622 cases, there were 123 deaths. That’s not great — those lives count, but so do the lives of those who were harmed or extinguished due to vaccination. It’s not a cut and dried thing — it’s a roll of the dice, which is why we need better science that accurately illuminates the real benefits and real risks. And all the questions that I posed in my original comment are still pertinent. We can create better public health without sacrificing this number of people. But we can’t go there unless people like you stop trying to shut people down for asking pertinent questions and demanding good science and real answers.