Hello - more than one thing can be true at a time. Tate says to put in the work for the purposes of selling men on his MLM scheme. I'm sure he sees himself as a self-made man and that's fine but at the same time he also blames women. And I've used his words so I don't understand why that's so difficult to grasp. I even put them in quotes and they are what he has said. Are you honestly accusing me of making this stuff up? Because it's all out there in the public domain for everyone to see and it's common knowledge. If you aren't aware of it, that's not my fault.
Peterson hasn't been a practicing clinician for a long time. The work that is earning him $80,000 per month on Patreon does not encourage men to seek therapy. You are very literally grasping at straws with this stuff. If he very occasionally mentions therapy, it’s far from his main message -although it should be.
"Peterson doesn’t necessarily offer good solutions. His constructive advice comes with some dubious traditionalist baggage. (“Healthy” women, he writes in his book “12 Rules of Life,” want men who “outclass” them in intelligence, dominance and status.) Though he has said that both sexes must adapt to a new world in which women have freedom and autonomy, he sometimes appears to pander to nostalgia for a world in which men were men and women were housewives."
I've watched hours upon hours of Peterson trying to understand the appeal and mostly what I see is blaming other people for the fact that it is no longer the 1950s and those gender and racial hierarchies are no longer a given - because Peterson thinks those hierarchies are "natural". Read this excellent article for a very detailed explanation of what a crank he actually is. It's quite long and very detailed, so it should meet your needs for specificity and quotes.
"Jordan Peterson appears very profound and has convinced many people to take him seriously. Yet he has almost nothing of value to say. This should be obvious to anyone who has spent even a few moments critically examining his writings and speeches, which are comically befuddled, pompous, and ignorant. They are half nonsense, half banality."
And I was not aware that I was not allowed to express an informed opinion against "important men" without meeting your metrics. I'll try to do better next time. 🙄
Honestly, this is a guy whose character you don't want me to assassinate?
"Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property. He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks and dates women aged 18–19 because he can “make an imprint” on them, according to videos posted online."
"In other clips, the British-American kickboxer – who poses with fast cars, guns and portrays himself as a cigar-smoking playboy – talks about hitting and choking women, trashing their belongings and stopping them from going out."
“It’s bang out the machete, boom in her face and grip her by the neck. Shut up bitch,” he says in one video, acting out how he’d attack a woman if she accused him of cheating. In another, he describes throwing a woman’s things out of the window. In a third, he calls an ex-girlfriend who accused him of hitting her – an allegation he denies – a “dumb hoe”.
