How is it anti-male propaganda to talk about my husband's experience with a dad who didn't do anything positive for his life? I'm glad your dad taught you things, but my point is, that isn't magic. If someone, like my husband, didn't have that, it's hurtful, but they can still go on to learn those things elsewhere and have a successful and productive life. If that makes you angry for me to say that, you've got a personal problem...