Elle Beau ❇︎
4 min readMay 11, 2022

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Now you're just grasping at straws! Egalitarianism doesn't mean that people who have expertise get viewed the same as people who don't around that topic. The hunter who knows where the best place to find game in the Spring is is not looked upon in exactly the same way as a 5 year old who has never been hunting in their life. The clan mother doesn't get looked at and treated in the same way as a hunter around her purview - because they have different areas of expertise. And you know that (and if you don't you're an idiot), so you are just being purposely obstreperous - all the while evading my question, which you don't want to answer because it doesn't actually make any sense.

Why on earth would anyone characterize egalitarianism as "dystopian"? You don't even know - you just wanted to say something that was disparaging about what I'd patiently tried to explain to you because you don't want to admit that I have expertise that you don't or some other stupid, pointless, reason. Are you so bought into patriarchy that you must "win" at all costs?

Quite right, you don't know whether I'm a professor of anthropology at Harvard or what, and yet you persist in treating me like I'm making all this up even though I've repeatedly told you that this is my area of expertise and that these are not my theories but the mainstream academic ones of most experts in the field. What's that about? More patriarchy?

You can't support your assertions, you persist in telling me what I believe, even when I tell you that I vehemently disagree with those things, you won't listen to logic or reason, and you don't ask questions - you attack what I've said with no interest in actually learning anything. If you had said to me something along the lines of "My understanding is that child marriage is quiet common in most indigenous populations. How do you reconcile that with egalitarianism?" I would have told you the answer, but that isn't what you did. You then asserted that egalitarianism is "dystopian" and that girls who are married at puberty have the same experience in all cultures that have child marriage, which is patently false. What exactly is THAT about?

There's a huge difference between patriarchal cultures such as India where girls essentially become the slave (sex slave as well as house slave) of much older men and they have no rights or recourse and aboriginals where girls may well be married at puberty, but where they also have a say in that, as well as the ability to divorce if they want to, and where the marriage has an entirely different cultural context related to egalitarian principles of kinship, mutual support, etc. See the longer comment I already left you with quotes from the website of the country of Australia for more on that.

I am "above" you as relates to this subject matter because it is my area of expertise and it is not yours. Shall I chide you that you are not treating me as an equal in topics related to physics? Are you so pig-headed that you actually believe that's what egalitarianism means?

Why don't you stop being so hung up on the fact that I'm a woman who knows things related to this subject matter area that you do not, and actually act like an adult? What is your obsession with validating patriarchy anyhow, because that's what's really going on here, right? That's the real subject matter than has been the subtext of everything you've said and the real reason that you keep accusing me of assertions that I've never made. Isn't that right?

What I still don't get is how any of your objections and balking relate to the undebatable fact that human social systems changed dramatically at the time of the agricultural revolution. You can't disprove that (because it's quite evidently true) but yet you just spent hours all day yesterday fighting me on anything and everything that I said around that. You keep telling me that you don't agree, but yet no reason is given, and no proof of any sort is offered. I suspect it probably has to do with the fact that you'd always believed that patriarchy existed from the dawn of time, and it rocks your boat to discover that this isn't actually the case. Is that why egalitarianism is "dystopian"? Because it's not the way you believe the world should and has always worked?

Is that why you haven't responded to my detailed comments about Native American and aboriginal marriage practices?

As a social scientist, I have to say, you are a rather fascinating subject and becoming more and more transparent by the minute...

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Elle Beau ❇︎
Elle Beau ❇︎

Written by Elle Beau ❇︎

I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother, I'm a sinner, I'm a saint. I do not feel ashamed. I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between.

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