The rhetoric I've seen from most men is that they cannot control themselves in these situations - which is quite frankly BS. The more right wing "alpha male" they are, the worse they are about claiming this. If their grandmother or their pastor was right there, they sure as hell wouldn't be ogling and groping.

I'm not the one calling them animals - it's what they are saying about themselves as a way to justify their behavior. I don't blame American men for being raised in a culture that fetishizes women's bodies, but I do blame them for acting like there is nothing they can do about it, that's it's just their "wiring", so it's all women's fault - for everything from leering to rape because they can't help themselves.

Noting (as I did in my first comment) that this is not wiring but socialization makes it pretty clear that I don't believe men are raging animals who shouldn't be in possession of the nuclear codes. In fact, I even said, "they (men) aren't slobbering wolves who can't control themselves. They can and do excercise self control."

I get that it's tougher to not feel "in turmoil" when you've been raised in a culture that teaches you to objectify women, and acknowledge that you agree that men can and must exercise self-restraint even if aroused. But the fact remains, I've come across tons of men who use "I'm an animal, this is my wiring" as an excuse and a way to blame and police women - in part because they've also been taught that women do everything for the male gaze, and so if a man is turned on, it must be because that was her intention. Another aspect of this that is so not true.