Elle Beau ❇︎
1 min readAug 1, 2021

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There is literally zero, none, no archeological evidence of warfare or other mass violence before 13,000 years ago. The massacre at Jabal Sahaba is widely agreed to be the first evidence of such. And most archeological or ethnographic violence is from 8,000 years ago or sooner.

The Yanomamo are not a hunter-gatherer tribe. The fact that you try to bring them in demonstrates that we are not having the same conversation and that you are being disengenous.

"Even today, some people who should know better confuse primitive agricultural societies with hunter-gatherer societies and argue, from such confused evidence, that hunter-gatherers were violent and warlike. For example, one society often referred to in this mistaken way is that of the Yanomami, of South America's Amazon, made famous by Napoleon Chagnon in his book subtitled, "The fierce people." Chagnon tried to portray the Yanomami as representative of our pre-agricultural ancestors. But Chagnon knew well that the Yanomami were not hunter-gatherers and had not been for centuries. They did some hunting and gathering, but got the great majority of their calories from bananas and plantains, which they planted, cultivated, and harvested. Moreover, far from being untouched by modern cultures, these people had been repeatedly subjected to slave raids and genocide at the hands of truly vicious Spanish, Dutch, and Portuguese invaders.[1] No wonder they had become a bit "fierce" themselves."

You still haven't demonstrated anything that actually refutes what I've said. I don't have any more time to devote to this discussion.

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Elle Beau ❇︎
Elle Beau ❇︎

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