Elle Beau ❇︎
2 min readJun 4, 2023

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Well, off the top of my head, continually spouting off that feminism has nothing to offer you. First off, something shouldn't have to only benefit you in order to be worthwhile. What kind of minister fucking says that? How about what is good for the people being harmed? How about what is good for the society? Inherent in that statement is the belief that women don't really need any help, which is further supported by statements I've seen you make complaining that "women act like it's still the 1800s." No matter how many times you get the statistics put in front of you, you still want to cling to shit like that. It's extremely misogyinstic!

Even when you get corrected on your erroneous beliefs - such as those about women in coal mining and the extreme levels of harassment and abuse they suffer - you still persist with this attitude that women are whining and overreacting. I have literally never once heard you acknowledge that women suffer in this society in any way. Everything is a deflection around that, another round of whataboutism that recenters you in the narrative and what you've suffered at the hands of women. That stuff counts, but it doesn't negate the rest.

Secondly, as already pointed out to you, greater gender equality is actually quite demonstrably statistically better for men's health and happiness. What feminism has to offer you (and all men) is a world where you are less likely to be shoved into a performative box of masculinity that may or may not fit you as well as less stress, and a longer average life-span.

When Ciaran commented on Tony's story that feminism implies female supremacy you "Agreed 100%." Again, what this indicates is that it's selfish and unnecessary for women to focus on their own interests (even if doing so also benefits men). They are apparently supposed to continue to keep putting themselves last and continue suffering in silence. Oh, right, I forgot, they aren't actually suffering in any way. It's all made up as a way to demonize men. 🙄

And before you say that feminism isn't synonymous with women (I'm well aware of that) there are nonetheless attitudes about women and what is taking place for them in this culture that are reflected in your comments and they are extremely tone deaf, based on falsehoods that have no doubt been fed to you by the manosphere, and sometimes just plain hateful.

I'm about to start swearing here, so I'm going to call it a day.

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Elle Beau ❇︎
Elle Beau ❇︎

Written by Elle Beau ❇︎

I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother, I'm a sinner, I'm a saint. I do not feel ashamed. I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between.

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