Elle Beau ❇︎
2 min readNov 22, 2021

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You are truly grasping at straws here. I have never once made a 1:1 correlation because that would be idiotic. Mental health is a complex thing with many elements and aspects to it. In fact, earlier in our “conversation” I quoted this to you:

“The University of Virginia sociologist Brad Wilcox recently pointed out in The Atlantic that there’s a strong link between suicide and weakened social ties. Following the seminal research of Emile Durkheim, he added that people — and especially men — are more likely to kill themselves “when they get disconnected from society’s core institutions (e.g., marriage, religion) or when their economic prospects take a dive (e.g., unemployment).” (See, “What’s Driving Suicide Among Middle-Aged Men?”)

Then I went on to say this — a general statement about humans as a species:

“Because we are such a social species, isolation and loneliness have high correlations with both physical and mental health problems. Lack of social connection has been shown to heighten health risks as much as smoking 15 cigarettes per day or having an alcohol use disorder and to be twice as damaging to both mental and physical health as obesity.”

So no, I’ve never made a 1:1 correlation about male suicide only being driven by Man Box norms. I’ve simply quoted to you from the conclusions of hundreds of research studies that one of the things that contributes heavily to male suicide is the disconnection from social ties that comes from trying to live up to Man Box demands. There are (obviously) other reasons as well because mental health is a complex topic. Oh, and then there’s this as well:

Seasonal affective disorder (SAD) is a mood disorder subset in which people who have normal mental health throughout most of the year exhibit depressive symptoms at the same time each year, most commonly in winter.

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Elle Beau ❇︎
Elle Beau ❇︎

Written by Elle Beau ❇︎

I'm a bitch, I'm a lover, I'm a child, I'm a mother, I'm a sinner, I'm a saint. I do not feel ashamed. I'm your hell, I'm your dream, I'm nothing in between.

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