Note: The comment this was in response to something that has been deleted, so I don’t have access to it. I can’t even remember the OP it was in reference to. This was never intended as a stand-alone story and only became one when the other guy deleted his account, but the OP had something to do with Wednesday Martin’s book “Untrue.”
You (and the author of the OP) are acting like both Martin and Ryan pulled this stuff out of their asses instead of repeatedly referencing scientific findings from a wide variety of reputable sources. If you can't specifically refute the assertions of those scientific sources, many of which I have quoted, which so far you haven't, despite your Gish gallop, then you haven't actually made your case.
For example, if partible paternity is so dysfunctional, why do so many Amazonian cultures practice it? You haven't disproved anything by citing one source. Do you know the first thing about hunter-gather tribes? They always care for each other's children, as do many cultures in rural Africa. Only patriarchal cultures care about paternity. Trying to generalize this to all of humanity over time is laughable because patriarchy is only 6-9 thousand years old. These are well established anthropological facts that have nothing to do with Ryan or Martin.
"Up to 70% of Amazonian cultures may have believed in the principle of partible paternity,[4] and it has been described in at least 18 different societies including the Araweté, Mehinaku, Tapirapé, Xokleng, and Wari',[5][6] along with the Aché and Kulina.[7]"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partible_paternity
Sarah Hrdy is a top anthropologist who has written extensively about the family sturcture of our ancestors and most anthropologists these days agree with her. Alloparenting/collective breeding is in line with other aspects of how highly cooperative egalitarian forager groups live(d). Below are some quotes from her.
https://www.naturalhistorymag.com/htmlsite/0409/0409_feature.pdf
"Shared child care may be the secret of human evolutionary success."
"In terms of cognition and emotions, the transformations wrought by shared care and provisioning were even more profound."
https://parentingscience.com/parents-need-help/
"Egalitarian, cooperative, and fiercely-protective of their personal freedoms, hunter-gatherers are also very practical. They know that parents can’t afford to raise kids without help. So everybody pitches in — and society thrives."
Most of your ideas are incredibly dated and antiquated and I don't have the time or frankly the energy to speak to all the other erroneous things that you've said here, particularly since it's clear it's not going to make any difference because your debate style is both dogmatic and fairly irrational. Yes, all the things that you've named as reasons for loss of sexual desire for women are correct, AND as I've already cited to you from a wide variety of long term studies from around the world, another one of these is that women also lose interest in sex in stable relationships much sooner than men do. And, you haven't actually refuted that or those studies by listing one article that doesn't mention it. This is the sort of lazy and frankly absurd debate that I referenced before and I don't have any more time for it.
Bye now... 👋
